Raphael Varane

[Andtho01]

Lykke til videre Varane!

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Fikk kjenne på Old Trafford en siste gang etter kampen i går

[Andtho01]

Da ser det ut som at Varane forsetter karriern sin i Serie A og Comfo.

[LoveBruno&Rashford]

Sammen med Pepe Reina og Moreno. Satser på rutine Como.

[Andtho01]

Da er Varane klar for Comfo signert en 2 års kontrakt med den nyopprykket laget til Serie A.
https://comofootball.com/en/como-1907-s ... el-varane/

[Andtho01]

Varane sin debut for Como gikk ikke så bra for hans del han gikk av med skade etter 23 min spilt.

[10Hag]

Synd å se, Varane er en likanes kar. Kanskje han tok med seg forbannelsen fra Carrington til Como

[Jan Erik]

Varane er VISSTNOK ikke registrert for spill i Serie A for Como. Ble jo skadet i debuten, og er ventet å være ute i ca to måneder. Spekuleres til og med i om kontrakten blir terminert.

Hvis alt går greit, er det jo mulig å registrere ham igjen i januar, men blir uansett en stund til han får spille mot McT og de andre stjernene i Serie A.

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Trist. Han hadde fortjent en bedre avslutning på karrieren. Både skademessig og av klubben som valgte å signere han.

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Det ble visst avslutningen. Men for en karriere da!

1x World Cup winner

2018 France

4x Champions League winner

17/18 Real Madrid

16/17 Real Madrid

15/16 Real Madrid

13/14 Real Madrid

4x FIFA Club World Cup winner

2019 Real Madrid

2018 Real Madrid

2017 Real Madrid

2015 Real Madrid

3x Spanish champion

19/20 Real Madrid

16/17 Real Madrid

11/12 Real Madrid

3x Uefa Supercup winner

17/18 Real Madrid

16/17 Real Madrid

14/15 Real Madrid

1x Winner UEFA Nations League

2021 France

1x English FA Cup winner

2024 Manchester United

1x Spanish cup winner

13/14 Real Madrid

3x Spanish Super Cup winner

19/20 Real Madrid

17/18 Real Madrid

12/13 Real Madrid

1x English League Cup winner

2023 Manchester United

[28FPellistri]

Trist når det er skade som ender karrieren og ikke "alderen".

Uansett, få som har like stort trofeskap som Varane. Vunnet det meste med både klubb og landslag.
Blir spennende å se om vi ser han på trenersiden eller i en annen fotballrelatert jobb nå.

Så kan vi som United tenke litt kynisk på det og i alle fall prise oss lykkelige over at det ikke var Woodward som satt der og gav han en ny 5-års kontrakt i sommer.

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Varane med et lengre intervju med The Athletic (link) (uten betalingsmur)

Raphael Varane interview: Real Madrid and Man United differences, Erik ten Hag relationship and retiring

Kom over artikkelen fordi det i VG stod "UT MOT UNITED".

Som vanlig stemmer det ikke helt med hva de faktisk sier.

Hele intervjuer avsluttes jo med:

Varane describes United as an “exceptional, magical and unique” club. “I have so much respect and love for the club that I can only be positive. Even when I say things that aren’t going well, it’s well intentioned and constructive. It’s not to point the finger at someone. I only wish the club well and hope they succeed.”

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Men jeg må si at det var et veldig bra intervju! Veldig ærlig.

Synes det mest interessante var beskrivelsen av hvordan han som en svært intuitiv spiller, i et veldig åpent system, fikk det til å fungere i Madrid:

“Psychologically, we never thought we were favourites,” Varane says. “We had to be on another level, like when smaller sides take on big teams. It’s a mixture of playing with humility — we had to achieve something every time — and a bit of arrogance. We knew our strengths but we were not overconfident. If we slackened off just a little bit, it was all over.”

What was remarkable to Varane was that the Madrid players barely spoke to each other on the pitch. “Everyone knew exactly what they had to do. Sometimes we pressed, sometimes we didn’t, and in fact nobody gave a signal. There were matches that for the first 30 minutes you sensed things weren’t going well, we were blocked and the space was elsewhere. We changed without even talking.”

Madrid were flexible in their setup, unpredictable in terms of approach.

“When you started the match, you didn’t know exactly how you were going to play. We didn’t just play or press one way. Sometimes we attacked even when we didn’t expect to, but we saw an opening and went for it.

“We were a very instinctive team. That’s why I consider it an art. It’s not robotic. There are always surprises. An action that worked one time may not work again. You always have to reinvent, rediscover, adapt.”

Varane’s style of play was all about instinct. At the start of his career in France with Lens, defenders were seen, in his words, as an “aggressive player who was dirty, rough, and stepped on the attacker’s toes”. But that changed, and what had been perceived by some as his weakness as a youngster became his strength. Don Limpio — Mr Clean, after a brand of household detergent — was the nickname Spanish media gave the Frenchman. “I made very few mistakes and didn’t pick up many cards (24 in his 10 seasons). I didn’t force situations. My movements were about sensing where the danger lies.”

His favourite defensive action was all about anticipation. There was nothing more satisfying for Varane than reading an attacker’s run, getting ahead of them and nicking the ball. “Anticipate to defend, so you don’t even have a duel,” he says. “That’s the best way, because the attacker feels disarmed and helpless. He couldn’t even fight. Sometimes they’d say, ‘I didn’t even play the ball’.” On one occasion, when he caught out Pierre-Emerick Aubameyang, the former Arsenal and Barcelona striker said, “You’re fast.”

Og således hvordan det ikke passet like bra med Ten Hag sin tilnærming:

[...]Erik ten Hag was then named as the next permanent manager in April 2022 to take over for that summer. His coaching style was a stark contrast to Varane’s Madrid experience.

“It was the opposite,” he says, “with fairly rigid patterns of play defined in advance. There was very little flexibility in terms of adapting on the pitch. The game plans were very, very precise, with lots and lots of information. It was different.”

As an instinctive player, Varane preferred more autonomy, which he had at his previous club and with France. “We could say to each other, ‘You have to do it more like this’, instead of a system that was, let’s say, a bit blocked by the coach’s instructions.”

Varane describes his relationship with Ten Hag as “a bit idiosyncratic”. “It’s hard to find the right words. It was very tense at times. Sometimes he made an effort to listen to the players’ feedback. Sometimes he made decisions without listening to the players’ feelings. So there were ups and downs. It was complicated at times.”

Det interessante her er jo at det fungerte veldig bra for Garnacho og Mainoo, som kanskje fant litt trygghet i systemet / "reglene" som mer uerfarne spillere. Litt som Rashford fikk det til under reglene til Van Gaal som ung.

Mest av alt er det lederstilen til Ten Hag som får gjennomgå:

According to Varane, Ten Hag did not offer him an explanation for leaving him out, other than it was for the best of the team. “We had a robust discussion. We told each other some truths, but then I didn’t play for almost two months. I said I didn’t agree with certain ways of doing things regarding the relationship between him and the team. It wasn’t something that I thought was good for the team because some of the players weren’t at all satisfied. It was not good in terms of the relationship with the coach.

“He said ‘OK, I hear what you said’ and after that I didn’t play.”

Varane did not feel Ten Hag was making an example of him but he did with other players and cited Ronaldo and Jadon Sancho as examples. He believes Ten Hag “wanted to gain respect through fear, perhaps”. “He always needed an example of a player who was alone the entire time he was at Manchester. He did that with at least one important player on the team. He was always in conflict with certain leaders of the group. That is his way of managing.”

Det siste der er jo nærmest karakterdrap. Om jeg som leder for en klubb i f.eks. Bundesliga hadde lest dette, og samtidig sett hvilket samhold moderne unge managere der skaper med en mye mer positiv tilnærming til spillergruppa (Kompany, Alonso), hadde jeg rett og slett aldri valgt å ansette han.

Ok, nå ender jeg opp med å paste inn nesten halve intervjuet her. Men når han beskriver hvordan du i Madrid ble mye mer skjermet mot presset, og at det ikke var tilfellet i United:

“When I say that the players are in the best conditions at Madrid, it’s because we’re trying to protect them from that pressure. There’s enough pressure already playing on the pitch, with the fans, media and social media. That’s why there was a bit of a protective atmosphere around the players at Madrid. It’s the club where there’s undoubtedly the most pressure. But whether it’s the coach, or the way the club handles difficult situations, it’s really a protection against that pressure. At Manchester, that wasn’t the case.”

... må jeg bare avslutte denne lange posten med å si at - det var endel av grunnen til at Ole var en så bra manager for oss.

Han er den eneste etter at Sir Alex ga seg, som både forstod hva det presset innebar (Moyes, LvG, Rangnick, Ten Hag forstod det ikke), og som samtidig skjermet spillerne for det så godt det lot seg gjøre (Mourinho forstod det, men kunne dessverre likevel finne på å henge ut enkeltspillere, i et forsøk på å provosere frem en reaksjon).

[Pink Final]

Interessant det intervjuet.
Fra et subjektivt synspunkt likte jeg det han sa om kunst kontra robot fotball.
Jeg er ikke så imponert over tiki taka som mange andre er.
Så liker det han sier om mer frihet slik de hadde i Madrid.
Under Erik ten Hag var det rigid sier han.
Og allikevel endte det med kaos fotball som ble et poplulært uttrykk.

Legger også merke til lederstilen til Erik ten Hag.
Igjen fra et subjektivt hjørne.
Men jeg har mistenkt at den Jadon Sancho sagaen har flere sider.
Og at ikke alt nødvendigvis ligger på Sancho.

Ellers terningkast seks til ditt siste avsnitt @red.
Tenker ofte ganske likt som deg.

[Rød Pølse]

Jadon Sancho

Baby Sancho? Ute av syne, ute av sinn. Uniteds mest imponerende transferaktivitet i 2024. Futsal uten kroppskontakt funker ikke så bra i Chelsea heller.

[LoveBruno&Rashford]

Det flotte med dette intervjuet er at det ble gjort på fransk slik at det blir enklere for Varane og bruke de riktige ordene og yttrykkene.